Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Leisure World HOAs, Arrogance, Incompetence, Stupidity or Senility?


Leisure World HOAs, Arrogance, Incompetence, Stupidity or Senility?
What part of You Must Fork Over the Documents is not clear?



Posted By CotoBlogzz

We have referred to David Lyon as the original David battling the HOA Goliath.  Further, Mr. Lyon was the inspiration for the CotoBuzz Journals’ the Davy HOA Awards:  Mr. Lyon’s quest for Leisure World homeowner association  transparency  began in January 2004 when a group of seven owners, including Carol Franz, Edmund Loritz & Co.  filed some 16 suits in Small Claims Court after they were refused access to  financial records.  They soon were involved in an owner’s worst nightmare, indeed a David vs. Goliath battle, until the  California Supreme Court Decision’s on Golden Rain Foundation vs Franz and Golden Rain Foundation vs Lyon.  Or so we thought.
 After all, it is widely known that the Attorney General,  the California Real Estate Commission and the State Bar do no have the tools to resolve homeowner conflicts, and the tools provided to management by the CAI for the last 35-years or so, have  made it more of a challenge. So,  how many residents in their own mind would fund litigation through several appeals, all the way to the Supreme Court, as Mr. Lyon has done?  After all, the local governing bodies have virtual bottomless pockets, funded by the same residents who are conflicted. 
On January 5, 2009, Judge Ronald L. Bauer ruled on Mr. Lyon’s favor, including  an award for fees incurred during the litigation. 
In September, Franz and Loritz were back in Orange County Superior Court, asking the judge to demand that their Mutual Two, one of 16 mutuals in Leisure World, abide by the Supreme Court’s decision, but the Mutual Two board argues it is not an association and hence the board in essence, can do anything it wants.  Some of the 16 mutuals are apparently willing to agree that they are associations.

Is it  Arrogance, Incompetence, Stupidity or Senility? What part of You Must Fork Over the Documents is not clear to Mutual Two and others?



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